Messenger Audio 19.1 (03-Dec-1982)

(0:00) Questioner 1 So, it's a matter of regulation. I think it's just a reiteration of our, I mean, what we mean by disurbance of the Qur'an. (0:37) Questioner 2 Concealing or distorting or making any changes. (0:44) Questioner 1 What is the Umrah pilgrimage? (0:45) Questioner 1 Those are the kinds of things I want to clarify. (0:48) Questioner 2 The Umrah is pilgrimage other than the specific time of Hajj. (0:53) Questioner 2 Umrah is exactly the same as Hajj, except it's another time. (0:58) Questioner 1 Any time? (1:00) Questioner 2 Any time of the year. (1:03) Questioner 3 How is Hajj recorded? (1:05) Questioner 2 Hajj has to be on the 9th and 10th days of the 12th month. (1:14) 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, or month number 12. (1:19) Questioner 3 Month number 12? (1:21) Questioner 2 The 9th day you have to be standing on the Arafat. (1:25) Questioner 3 The 9th day? (1:27) Questioner 2 Lunar. (1:28) Questioner 2 Lunar month. (1:32) Questioner 2 So Umrah is doing Hajj at any other time. (1:36) Questioner 2 Outside of that. (1:39) Questioner 3 Those who are preaching the Qur'an. (1:52) Questioner 3 And clarify, perhaps clarify, make up for their mistakes by making it clear to others. (2:00) Questioner 3 Uncover what they were considering. (2:04) Questioner 3 So it just shows that there is hope for Islam. (2:10) Questioner 3 Always. Everybody. (2:14) Questioner 3 Those who believe in God and deserve to believe in God. (2:18) Questioner 3 And I see the person as two things. (2:21) Questioner 3 That they were kept from their lives and eyes. (2:24) Questioner 3 And they were sent forth to be Muslims. (2:27) Questioner 3 And they are going to get what they deserve for having deserved that position. (2:32) Questioner 3 Peace. Peace. (2:33) Questioner 3 In other words we are taught that for as long as the person is alive there is hope. (2:36) Questioner 3 But once they die as disbelievers, they are finished. (2:40) Questioner 3 Except for them, and they deserve their curse. (2:47) Questioner 3 In fact the angels beat them up at the time of their death. (2:52) Questioner 3 They are in pain. (2:55) Questioner 3 You think it's the pain of death, but really the pain of being beaten up. (3:00) Questioner 3 I'm not sure if they realize it or not. (3:03) Questioner 3 They are being slapped in the face and kicked in the butt. (3:11) Questioner 3 It's another community. (3:13) Questioner 3 It's like, while I'm alive it's the way things are going to play out. (3:20) Questioner 3 I've assumed that the people who are alive now and are following the practices, (3:32) Questioner 3 they don't have that sense. (3:33) Questioner 3 Is there a possibility that once they've died and they're not in their house, (3:38) Questioner 3 you think they've realized the loss originally? (3:40) Questioner 3 Once the people have died, that's it. (3:43) Questioner 3 This is over. (3:46) Questioner 2 So, so, so, the shot, (3:48) Questioner 2 he said that the angels beat him up in his face, (3:51) Questioner 2 but I said that if somebody can get shot in the head, (3:55) Questioner 2 and say they might go through the pain, (3:58) Questioner 2 but that pain that this disbeliever is going through is the angel's pain, (4:01) Questioner 2 where the believer, right, the disbeliever, (4:04) Questioner 2 but as a believer, he was to get shot at something else. (4:09) Questioner 3 I mean, it was just that he was shot, (4:11) Questioner 3 and he probably just got into the person's head and did it, (4:14) Questioner 3 but that pain that this, (4:16) Questioner 3 So that's where they become a, (4:18) Questioner 3 they're so gentle. (4:20) Right. (4:22) They probably don't get shot. (4:30) I can, I can, (4:33) I can guess very well that the believers died very peacefully, (4:37) in their sleep or something. (4:39) Very nice. (4:42) Because God says they are gentle, (4:44) and they saw what they could do. (4:46) It's a gentle transformation. (5:05) And somehow, (5:07) well now Marcus, I mean he's in war, (5:09) he's in fighting, that's, (5:11) he knows what he's in for. (5:15) And he's pleased when he's spared or whatever. (5:19) God makes it easy for him. (5:20) So could that be like a double type of thing when you ask, (5:24) you know, about to, (5:27) what you deserve, (5:29) an out and an in response? (5:33) Say it again. (5:34) When you honor me, (5:36) honor me a good death and honor me, you know. (5:39) Oh I see, yes. (5:40) I mean a good entrance and a good exit? (5:42) Yes. (5:43) Good exit. (5:43) Right, right. (5:45) Well a good exit means exit as a believer. (5:48) That's what it means. (5:49) But the two couldn't match up to the same thing. (5:55) That could be, yes. (5:56) If you ask me for a good exit, (5:58) then you ask me to remain a believer or something. (6:01) Yes, that could mean the same thing. (6:07) The business of martyrs, by the way, (6:09) is there was an age where (6:13) the people were to be proven believers (6:16) by actually going in battle. (6:18) But now we're in an age where (6:20) the whole thing is mental. (6:25) There's no way (6:27) you can go and fight Russia, for example, (6:30) if you make a Muslim appointment. (6:35) So you have to embed that mentally. (6:39) The whole business of fighting (6:41) is strictly against people who are trying to stop the religion. (6:45) Right, that's it. (7:02) Yeah, ila hokum. (7:04) It says, ila hokum, ilahum wahid. (7:09) Your God is one God. (7:11) La ilaha illa hu. (7:13) There's no God except He. (7:16) Ar-Rahman, ar-Rahim. (7:20) The gracious, the merciful. (7:30) Yeah, it depends on, it's a grammar. (7:34) But it says, ila hokum, ilahum wahid. (7:39) La ilaha illa hu. (7:41) Ar-Rahman, ar-Rahim. (7:49) Okay, we've got to quit now (7:51) so we can celebrate Rahim's birthday. (7:54) And Sami, his friends are celebrating his birthday (7:57) so he was going to come, but I told him (7:59) you better stay with your friends. (8:03) Are there any questions before we quit? (8:06) Yeah. (8:07) There's, there's... (8:09) No, I... (8:12) What's in there? (8:30) There is one, I quoted him. (8:33) It says... (8:38) It's not that I made a mistake. (8:41) Where it says, my favorite to you has been (8:44) Azeem, Padme Azeem. (8:46) And I wanted to put your notes. (8:49) That is the same as (8:53) this, 2151. (8:57) Because it has this, it's 151. (9:03) Anyhow. (9:06) No, I made a mistake. (9:08) It is not where that is from. (9:09) Just now, it's where God says (9:12) my favorite, my father to you has been Azeem. (9:16) And it consists of (9:19) this, this and that. (9:36) Alhamdulillah. (9:41) We're going to pray the morning at 6 o'clock. (9:43) And when you people get up in the morning (9:45) and come here to make zikr at 6 o'clock (9:47) there is joy and celebration and happiness. (9:50) The angels are all excited. (9:53) And you received the awards. (9:57) Because I wanted to put it. (9:59) And you passed the... (10:01) I wanted to put it in here. (10:02) Why is that? (10:05) Because (10:09) when the messenger (10:11) is given scripture and wisdom (10:13) and knowledge what was not known. (10:16) This was an instance of the Padme Azeem (10:18) on the Prophet. (10:20) And I wanted to write it on your book. (10:24) But I don't have it. It's not one of these. (10:27) It doesn't say Zul Padme Azeem. (10:29) It just says Padme Azeem. (10:33) Some of these verses are like that. (10:35) See I just mixed them up here. (10:38) But it will be in the pamphlet. (10:41) OK. (10:43) I'll check that. (10:44) What I'm doing now is (10:45) I'm having this in one of my books. (10:48) But (10:50) very careful. (10:52) Because then you will not know (10:54) what this is, this and this and so on. (10:56) Unless you have a clue. (10:59) See, I need to know. (11:01) I've got notes in so many of my books. (11:03) Now I need to bring them all together (11:05) just to get one Quran with margins. (11:09) What I'm doing now is (11:10) all of my notes that are separated (11:13) I'm putting them in one Quran. (11:15) And then I destroy them. (11:17) So I will not tell. (11:18) I know it's already in the circle. (11:20) It is going to take a month. (11:22) Don't you need a second copy? (11:24) Not my Quran? (11:27) That is already in the last week. (11:28) Because I want to give it to him. (11:31) I'll tell you the meaning of what I'm doing (11:33) when you come home. (11:34) If this was you (11:37) standing directly above the North Pole (11:39) there would be no question (11:41) which is a straight line. (11:53) This is a straight line. (11:56) That's clear. (11:57) If you walked straight down here (11:59) you would get to the South Pole (12:00) which is directly beneath you (12:02) and back again down where you are. (12:03) So it's not really a straight line. (12:04) It's a curve. (12:05) Yeah, it's a curve line. (12:06) But you have perception. (12:09) So if this was where you stood up (12:12) right here (12:14) if you draw those radiating lines (12:16) you still have the South, East, South (12:20) North, South lines. (12:21) But then your East and West lines (12:24) doesn't follow East anymore. (12:28) Because your East and West lines (12:30) actually are like this. (12:35) You're split by a piece. (12:37) When you walk back (12:39) you get back to your... (12:44) So that all those lines connected (12:47) this plane with the center of the Earth (12:54) point is also part of that plane. (12:59) If you observe this (13:02) this is over here (13:03) like the North Pole (13:06) radiating lines (13:07) you have your East, South (13:12) you have your North, South (13:14) then your East (13:16) East, West (13:18) already you can't stop following these lines. (13:22) What's this? (13:25) Yeah, alright. (13:27) So, what are we doing? (13:28) If you were... (13:39) You see what... (13:42) That's why the compass prevents you from that. (13:46) Yeah, the problem is... (13:48) Yeah, we're going to keep going. (13:51) You keep this this whole time. (13:55) You get the point? (13:56) Yeah. (14:05) That's why we have to be slightly more... (14:09) That's why our compass gives you... (14:14) That's how I actually started. (14:15) So, if you walk directly to the East... (14:19) Here, you talk to Carl. (14:21) You decide what to do. (14:23) You know what he says? (14:24) Nah, I wasn't following it closely. (14:27) If you walk directly to the East (14:28) I ask you slightly (14:28) if you walk directly to the East (14:30) not to be a straight line to us (14:31) even though we don't... (14:32) because we don't perceive the curvature of the Earth. (14:35) If we walk a straight line (14:37) eventually we would get back to the same point. (14:42) A straight line to us East (14:44) is not actually following the East. (14:47) It is bound to... (14:52) We'll discuss it after. (14:55) Yeah. (14:56) There's two channels. (14:57) There is the... (14:59) The line... (15:01) Now, if you put them in the real position (15:03) the line is just slightly... (15:08) Lines projecting from anywhere on Earth (15:12) just like the North Pole (15:13) these lines which go... (15:15) which cut the Earth in half. (15:17) This is what we consider a straight line (15:20) where you'd walk (15:21) and eventually get back to the place where you began. (15:26) For you it's easy. (15:27) For you it's easy. (15:28) You just go like that. (15:30) For you it's visual. (15:32) You know, we can... (15:32) Yeah. (15:33) But I mean... (15:35) In our visual location of this (15:38) because even the Earth being egg-shaped (15:40) is not this perfect sphere. (15:41) Yeah, but... (15:43) Still, it's not that much distorted. (15:45) No, but those lines are put on Earth by... (15:50) They use astrological, astronomical measurements (15:54) in order to locate those lines. (15:56) To locate where you are on this Earth (15:58) in relation to those lines. (16:00) The most accurate way to locate (16:01) is not from the surface of your compass (16:03) but from astronomically. (16:07) Yes, yes. (16:08) But then these lines are already drawn. (16:10) Yeah. (16:10) This you can find out by time. (16:15) By... (16:16) In relation to your Greenwich time. (16:18) This in relation to the stars. (16:22) Yeah, I mean... (16:22) Yeah, the projection here is a model. (16:25) Yeah. (16:26) Yeah. (16:27) But I think if you were using them really (16:29) they might, you know, in a real... (16:32) They wouldn't be quite as straight as they look here. (16:35) Well, see, it's slightly flattened (16:38) because of the rotation of the Earth. (16:39) Right. (16:41) But the distortion isn't that drastic. (16:44) The point that I was raising is (16:46) because I asked the stars, (16:47) so if we walk straight east, (16:50) which is Mecca, (16:51) we're not entirely south. (16:53) It's slightly south. (16:55) I mean, the distance is so great (16:58) that it's only about a half a degree. (17:01) Yeah, well... (17:03) Yeah. (17:04) Even that, see. (17:06) The point that I was raising is (17:08) if you were standing here directly (17:10) on the North, (17:12) on the axis, (17:15) you would have no question where to face, right? (17:18) No. (17:19) No, because you'd just be following this, (17:21) these lines, (17:22) which is... (17:22) What is longitude? (17:24) Oh, it's not latitude. (17:25) Oh. (17:26) That's not longitude either. (17:29) So, actually, (17:31) no matter where you're standing on Earth, (17:34) if these lines... (17:36) You can actually have them where you're standing, (17:39) which would represent the straight lines to you. (17:42) Suppose you're like this now. (17:44) Yes. (17:44) You are... (17:45) If I was standing... (17:46) Very side, yeah. (17:48) Okay. (17:48) If you're standing here, (17:49) you'll still have... (17:51) Do you remember the Friday... (17:56) You'll still have this line (18:01) that goes north-south. (18:03) If you're still facing the Earth, (18:05) the path would be one of these straight lines. (18:08) Then, (18:09) to cut that, (18:11) the path would be your East and West, (18:13) which would be like this. (18:16) Yeah. (18:16) Right? (18:17) So if you walk directly East, (18:19) you'd be going like this. (18:28) Because when you're facing East, (18:31) you're facing this way. (18:33) That's the direction that you'd be walking, (18:35) if you walked directly East. (18:36) If you walked in a straight line, (18:38) that was possible, (18:39) without veering right or left. (18:44) Try to visualize it (18:46) as if this was a North Pole. (18:54) I would still have to stay (18:56) because my bearings would probably be like (18:59) the Sun or something. (19:00) If you were to walk this way, (19:03) say, if you were to walk like this, (19:06) if I followed this straight East... (19:12) Just because you're thinking in terms... (19:15) You're thinking in terms of these lines here. (19:18) Yeah. (19:18) These are very imaginary lines. (19:20) Right. (19:21) To be... (19:21) For that to be a straight line to you, (19:23) you'd have to be standing this way. (19:26) But you're not. (19:27) I know you're not. (19:34) Where am I standing? (19:37) You'd be standing like this, (19:39) facing the center of the Earth. (19:42) Because that's the center of gravity. (19:45) Because if you were standing like this, (19:48) you'd be like this, see? (19:52) Can you visualize a pin (19:57) standing like this? (19:59) Just like this. (20:06) But if you're going to keep it perpendicular to the... (20:09) That's what you're talking about, (20:10) it being perpendicular to the surface, (20:13) of the curved surface, right? (20:18) If it stays upright, (20:20) I still don't see any problem. (20:22) There's not much that's going either. (20:23) Yeah, but you'd be walking... (20:26) But I've got a pin. (20:29) And I think there's no slant to it. (20:32) Again, (20:33) if, for instance, (20:36) this was... (20:37) You're standing here. (20:38) This was north and this was south. (20:40) Then this would be east and west, right? (20:42) Yeah. (20:44) There's no question about that. (20:47) Your east and west is not like this. (20:51) If, for instance, you're... (20:52) Again, if you're standing here, (20:57) you see, (20:58) east and west would be like this. (21:02) Well, (21:03) the angle here is going to keep changing (21:09) because it stays perpendicular to the... (21:13) You know, so there would be, (21:15) between this perpendicular line (21:18) and that one, (21:19) if you cut that straight through (21:21) and ignore the curve, (21:22) then there would be an angle. (21:26) I'll take the whole thing. (21:38) There would be an angle between this and that. (21:46) No, but that's... (21:49) There's no question about this being a straight line. (21:53) Certainly, there can be drawn a line (21:56) connected from your north and your south, right? (22:01) And you could be... (22:03) It would cross where you're standing. (22:17) Want me to paint you? (22:30) Thank you. (22:31) Thank you. (22:37) If we could draw lines in this globe, you know, (22:40) we'd be able to... (22:45) Hi. (22:48) Thank you. (22:53) That's good. (22:57) I'll shoot myself. (23:05) No, I mean this one. (23:06) This one? (23:15) You see, (23:16) the radius of the circle that you draw (23:18) would have to be... (23:21) He made it! (23:24) It would have to be the centre of the earth, (23:27) the centre of gravity. (23:31) I really don't... (23:32) You have some of this? (23:33) Yeah, I have some of this. (23:36) You have this? (23:45) You mean the idea of sticking that pin all the way through? (23:51) What are you talking about, the centre of the earth? (23:54) The centre of the earth is the radius of all straight lines, (23:59) at least, apparent straight lines. (24:04) Like the radius of this circle. (24:06) We call that a straight line, right? (24:09) The radius of it is the centre of the earth. (24:10) I'm coming up this way. (24:17) Like when a satellite circles the earth, (24:21) it can be circling any which way. (24:23) It can be circling like this, (24:25) it can be circling like this, (24:26) it doesn't have to follow this. (24:28) If it would try to circle this way, (24:31) it certainly wouldn't circle the earth, (24:34) it would just sort of fly away. (24:36) But it would have to have the radius (24:39) being the centre of gravity. (24:44) That's the way we walk, (24:46) around the centre of gravity. (24:52) A satellite couldn't just circle around up here, (24:55) it would have to. (24:58) It's as if there was some kind of a rod (25:00) between the centre of the earth and the satellite. (25:02) Exactly, like a string, (25:04) you know when you go like this with a bucket? (25:08) You could twirl it like this, (25:10) or you could twirl it like that. (25:19) So what you're saying is, (25:20) you know, if we had a water cannon (25:21) with us on the surface, (25:29) that's like the top of it, isn't it? (25:32) Yeah, we'd be standing like this. (25:36) Because when we're drawing, (25:37) you know, if we draw a line (25:38) from the tip of our head (25:40) to the tip of our feet, (25:43) it would hit the centre of gravity. (25:50) And it seems that there's something else going on then, (25:53) because we don't walk like that (25:55) on the surface of the earth, (25:56) because we are... (26:01) I mean, basically we're sticking to that. (26:07) To what? (26:09) We're sticking to the earth. (26:12) Yeah. (26:13) Yeah, it was as if there was a string (26:16) tied to our feet, (26:17) and it was somebody in the centre of the earth (26:19) that's twirling us around (26:20) if we were to walk straight. (26:23) Can you imagine that? (26:25) Well, I'm wondering if that has to be so, (26:27) whether, you know, (26:28) the centre of the earth (26:29) is merely the surface of the earth. (26:31) No, it's the centre of the earth, (26:33) the centre of gravity. (26:36) Because all this curvature (26:37) is encasing... (26:40) It's like a whole bunch of circles (26:44) with one radius, (26:47) and that's what makes the sphere. (26:57) So that, you know, (26:59) if this was the curve, (27:03) certainly the radius would be something like this. (27:05) Yeah. (27:05) We wouldn't be standing like this. (27:08) Standing like this. (27:11) It would be like, (27:11) if you had your radius and your circle, (27:15) and we'd be standing in such a way that... (27:17) You can draw lines like this from your radius, right? (27:20) And you'd be standing in the way that (27:23) it goes perpendicular to the surface. (27:25) You would always be perpendicular. (27:26) Yeah. (27:28) So there wouldn't be a... (27:30) What you're talking about. (27:32) Yeah. (27:32) You cannot. (27:33) We don't stand this way or this way. (27:36) That's it. (27:39) being perpendicular there, (27:43) and in Mecca, (27:45) but what you're saying, (27:48) you're suggesting that we... (27:50) we couldn't be. (27:58) See? (28:02) There's only one circle like this. (28:06) That can intersect where we stand, (28:09) Tucson and Mecca, right? (28:12) Right. (28:14) And the radius of that circle (28:15) is the center of the Earth, (28:17) the radius of all these. (28:19) These. (28:19) Not these. (28:20) Not the latitude. (28:23) The longitude. (28:29) So all of these, (28:32) these degrees (28:35) are circles, actually. (28:37) All of them. (28:39) Possibly. (28:40) I mean, because (28:42) in this act, (28:46) if this point is a focal point, (28:49) it's not the center of the Earth, actually, (28:51) it's a focal point. (28:53) So we're dealing with a different concept now. (28:58) I mean, it's not (28:59) the physical position of our bodies. (29:03) Right. (29:06) Well, it has a great deal to do (29:07) with our perception. (29:10) To what... (29:11) If we were standing this way... (29:14) Yeah. (29:14) If we were standing this way, for instance, (29:17) a straight line for us would be like this. (29:19) Yeah. (29:21) You know. (29:22) But we'd be sort of... (29:23) We'd arrive at the same point. (29:24) No. (29:27) That'd be kind of hard (29:28) because you'd have to have a surface (29:30) to be able to determine, (29:32) you know, (29:33) what to be walking in a straight line. (29:36) Because if you were standing this way, (29:38) your surface would be this way. (29:40) If that was a curve, (29:41) you'd actually be going this way. (29:44) If somebody's standing straight, (29:45) that's a curve. (29:47) If that's standing this way, (29:48) that's a straight line. (29:57) I don't know if I can make myself... (29:59) Wow. (30:00) Because I've thought about this (30:01) a long time ago (30:02) when I was trying to determine... (30:03) But what you're suggesting (30:05) is that you'd never hit Mecca (30:07) by walking that way (30:08) if you kept the earth as your center. (30:14) I mean, if you kept the center of the earth (30:16) as your pivot. (30:17) Yeah. (30:19) You're suggesting (30:20) you'd never actually hit Mecca (30:22) by walking east of Mecca. (30:24) Yeah. (30:25) Yeah, that's what I'm saying. (30:34) Every... (30:34) So when the sun goes 15 degrees up (30:38) an hour's pass, (30:40) then you can find this out. (30:42) The thing is this, (30:43) this is a convention that was (30:45) signed by sailors, (30:48) which... (30:48) Yeah, but it would probably, (30:50) you know, (30:52) the Quranic injunction (30:54) is to use the stars (30:55) and the moon (30:56) and the heavens and the sky (30:56) to guide you (30:57) on the earth (30:58) to find your way up. (31:00) But the Arabs would also do that (31:02) with their... (31:03) what they call... (31:05) Yeah, that's an astrolabe. (31:08) That's just to tell the angles. (31:10) Then you figure out (31:11) where you are. (31:11) You can tell where you are (31:14) on a globe like this (31:16) in relation to these different (31:19) lines. (31:22) A compass doesn't tell you that much. (31:24) A compass is only a channel. (31:28) Because it is subject to some distortion. (31:33) Yeah. (31:34) Over a short distance (31:35) you can use it (31:36) as a fairly accurate (31:37) but a map of (31:39) your coordinates. (31:43) Yeah, a compass. (31:47) If somebody's standing up (31:49) in Michigan, (31:50) in an iron country, (31:52) it doesn't help to say (31:53) where to stand. (31:57) It doesn't tell them anything. (31:58) It's wild. (32:00) It's like a mountain of metal (32:01) that's in the soil. (32:05) Yeah, yeah. (32:07) But theoretically, (32:10) if your compass was perfect, (32:13) was able to point directly here (32:15) to the (32:16) to the true north, (32:20) then you'd be able to determine it (32:24) by... (32:25) just by experience. (32:26) People would travel (32:28) in that (32:29) straight line sort of thing. (32:32) They'd be able to say, (32:33) like, if you were in this point, (32:35) you know, (32:37) this place would be a certain degree. (32:42) Because the compass is actually like (32:43) like this. (32:45) If you were standing here (32:47) and this was your north pole, (32:48) this was your south pole, (32:49) this was your east, (32:49) this was your west, (32:50) your compass would be going like this (32:52) and certainly, you know, (32:53) across that would be your (32:55) your (32:56) your west and east. (33:00) You can do the same. (33:02) Well, you can always do that (33:03) with shadows. (33:06) Yeah. (33:08) So what's your conclusion? (33:12) If (33:14) if you're pivoting (33:16) if you're pivoting on a point that's (33:18) you know, if you had a wire (33:19) attached from you (33:20) to the center of the earth, (33:21) you'd pivot. (33:23) Madame, happy birthday. (33:26) We're being on the surface (33:27) of the earth. (33:28) Perpendicular to the surface. (33:30) Which you wouldn't be anyway. (33:33) Because you would be slanting (33:35) as you go (33:35) north, south, anyways. (33:39) You'd be going like this. (33:41) You'd constantly be (33:41) perpendicular to the surface (33:43) of the earth. (33:44) Yeah, but your pivot would not be. (33:47) Why not? (33:48) Because if the (33:49) if you had a (33:50) think of a wire (33:51) as opposed to the point right (33:52) in the very center of the globe. (33:55) You'd pivot. (33:56) You'd have a wire (33:57) coming out from that. (34:00) Now (34:15) the perpendicular (34:17) curved surface. (34:18) Yeah. (34:18) It's not (34:19) I can't say it's perpendicular (34:20) because it's a curve. (34:22) You know, but we perceive it. (34:23) But if we move that (34:24) if we simply move that (34:28) I don't see then (34:29) how you would ever be (34:30) on a slanting (34:30) like you're saying (34:31) as long as the surface is curved. (34:33) No, you'd (34:34) never be at a slant. (34:36) So there you are (34:38) perpendicular (34:38) to the surface. (34:39) Yeah. (34:41) Pivoting on the center. (34:43) Aiming (34:44) where the line (34:45) goes to Mecca. (34:46) You would. (34:47) Why would you (34:48) Oh yeah. (34:49) You want to find the line (34:50) that goes to Mecca. (34:52) Now that (34:52) you know (34:54) you could still (34:55) yeah (34:55) that line (34:57) that goes to Mecca (34:57) would cut (34:58) and rock those (34:59) 40,000. (35:00) Now you're pivoting (35:02) from the center. (35:03) It doesn't require (35:05) you following (35:06) those latitude (35:07) and longitude (35:08) to see that you can (35:09) still cut across (35:10) the monster. (35:12) Yeah, but then (35:12) you'd be walking (35:13) a (35:14) what we would (35:15) consider (35:16) a curved line. (35:19) A different curved line (35:21) than these (35:22) because (35:23) No, different from (35:24) from these (35:26) drawn lines. (35:33) You understand (35:34) exactly what I mean (35:35) when I say (35:36) that this is a straight (35:37) line, right? (35:38) Yeah. (35:39) We can do exactly (35:41) We can draw exactly (35:42) the same lines (35:43) from where (35:43) from any point (35:44) on the earth. (35:45) So let's assume (35:47) this is Tucson, Arizona. (35:48) Okay. (35:49) And all these lines (35:50) are arbitrarily (35:53) Let's take (35:54) this is our line (35:57) and let's put (35:58) Mecca and Upper Volcan. (36:03) Okay, let's say (36:04) you know (36:05) instead of putting it (36:06) directly on that line (36:08) let's put it over Nigeria (36:09) so we don't have to (36:10) change the direction. (36:11) Yeah. (36:12) So you can still draw (36:13) a straight line there. (36:15) Yeah. (36:16) Exactly. (36:17) There's an (36:17) infinite number of lines (36:19) that you can (36:19) draw there. (36:21) So the same thing there. (36:23) Yeah. (36:24) But it doesn't relate (36:25) to the rotation (36:26) of the earth. (36:27) No. (36:27) So that's the problem. (36:28) Now, these lines (36:29) are drawn in relation (36:31) to the (36:31) rotation of the earth. (36:32) Yeah, because it's (36:33) based on the axis (36:34) of the earth. (36:36) So it points out (36:37) which the entire (36:37) earth is. (36:38) So what's your (36:39) conclusion to this? (36:41) How do we create (36:42) this? (36:43) Do we have a (36:44) conclusion? (36:45) Well, you see (36:47) I'm not sure (36:48) what we're supposed (36:49) to do. (36:50) Are we supposed (36:51) to face (36:51) in the direction (36:52) that we consider (36:53) a straight line? (36:55) The vertical body (36:55) is straight. (36:56) In Mecca, (36:57) we're supposed to face (36:58) We should (36:59) then in that case (37:00) that is what (37:01) we're supposed to do (37:02) we should be (37:02) facing (37:03) slightly (37:05) north (37:06) or east. (37:07) Is it called? (37:08) Yeah. (37:08) Because (37:09) when we're facing (37:10) north (37:10) or east (37:12) or west (37:12) we're not (37:13) facing (37:14) east or west. (37:16) Like this (37:17) we're facing (37:17) west. (37:17) We're not facing (37:18) west. (37:18) We're going east. (37:19) Yeah. (37:20) Ah, that's not right. (37:23) Yeah. (37:23) No, but we are (37:24) compensating (37:25) because we are (37:27) slightly north (37:28) of Mecca already (37:28) so we have to face (37:29) slightly south. (37:33) Ah, that's not right. (37:34) Yeah. (37:35) But it's only about (37:35) a half a degree (37:36) from north to south. (37:38) But that's in relation (37:39) to north and south. (37:41) But suppose you're (37:42) looking just (37:42) at distances. (37:44) If this line (37:45) if these (37:46) things were drawn (37:49) you wouldn't be saying (37:50) that we're (37:52) north or south (37:54) of it. (37:55) I'm sorry. (37:56) Yeah, because (37:56) to speak of north-south (37:57) what is the term (37:58) of what you have (37:58) decided is (37:59) you're saying (37:59) north or south. (38:01) But if you just (38:01) look at distance (38:04) in other words (38:04) we can flatten the (38:05) but yeah, but (38:09) the compass (38:10) tries to find (38:11) the shortest distance. (38:14) Is that right? (38:15) Well, no. (38:16) No? (38:16) That the compass (38:17) not the shortest distance? (38:19) The compass is only (38:20) pointing at the (38:21) magnetic pole. (38:22) That's all it says. (38:23) Yeah, but (38:23) those are (38:25) from (38:26) from people (38:27) who (38:27) can determine (38:28) the mathematics. (38:30) Well, those little (38:31) maps, those little (38:32) booklets that come (38:33) with the compass (38:33) on the mecca (38:34) and everything (38:36) they give (38:36) angles (38:37) that are based (38:38) on those short (38:39) distances. (38:40) They're like (38:41) plane slides (38:42) but they're very inaccurate. (38:45) Yeah, well (38:46) they're inconsistent. (38:47) They may not (38:48) compensate (38:48) for magnetic (38:49) inclination (38:50) at all these points. (38:53) You notice (38:53) that there's lots of (38:54) I have (38:55) different points (38:55) same as the compass. (38:57) The watch goes very much (38:58) to the north. (39:00) Because (39:01) I had a friend (39:02) that had one of those (39:05) and hers (39:06) had a book (39:06) that gave all these (39:07) different points (39:08) across the U.S. (39:09) with an angle (39:10) based on the compass. (39:12) All of Mexico (39:12) it gave in the U.S. (39:14) Now, (39:15) I have a question. (39:16) Suppose we're here now. (39:17) What do we do? (39:18) We try to look (39:19) here, no? (39:20) Right? (39:21) Is there no way (39:22) of looking (39:22) to the east? (39:24) Yeah. (39:25) It's a longer way (39:26) but (39:27) it doesn't make (39:28) any difference. (39:34) It's probably (39:35) in that sense (39:36) it might be a convention. (39:38) That's probably (39:38) a convention. (39:39) That the short distance (39:40) was used. (39:40) But in any case (39:41) I don't see why (39:42) the people of Tucson (39:43) to look at Mexico (39:45) will have to look (39:46) east. (39:48) Why do they not (39:49) look (39:50) west (39:51) across Asia? (39:52) Because they don't (39:53) come from the Philippines. (39:55) Yeah. (39:56) But we look west (39:57) when we're in the Philippines. (39:58) So what do you think? (39:59) It's not the distance. (40:00) Right. (40:01) But at the same time (40:02) isn't it the same? (40:05) Well, I guess (40:06) oh God (40:07) planned it (40:07) by making that (40:08) Pacific Ocean (40:09) so damn big. (40:15) But if we follow (40:16) the Romanian geometry (40:18) the whole line (40:20) will be (40:21) wherever you look (40:22) eventually (40:22) you look at (40:23) Mexico. (40:25) Yeah. (40:26) According to (40:26) Romanian. (40:27) Because lines (40:28) are equal (40:28) anyhow. (40:31) Yeah. (40:32) Let's go see. (40:38) You know (40:39) as far as he (40:40) he's permanent (40:41) here only since (40:53) Pardon? (40:56) Yeah, you can beg (40:57) anything you want. (40:59) Don't call on me (41:00) tonight. (41:02) Maybe you should (41:03) I'm so tired (41:04) and I'm so hungry (41:05) and I just feel (41:06) I want to listen (41:08) to all this wonderful (41:09) stuff that you're (41:09) going to tell me. (41:10) Oh good. (41:11) Usually (41:13) Usually they say (41:14) don't call on me (41:15) the first person (41:15) they call that is you. (41:19) If I have any (41:20) insight though (41:21) I will. (41:23) Okay. (41:24) I hope so. (41:25) Because you know (41:25) God inspires (41:26) all of us (41:27) through the input (41:28) this is the benefit (41:29) of a group. (41:31) Because here we have (41:32) like 20 brains (41:33) thinking of the (41:34) same verse. (41:36) Otherwise we'll (41:37) sit home and read (41:37) the Quran by ourselves. (41:40) But it will not be (41:41) as productive. (41:48) Well I have (41:48) I'm going to mention (41:49) two things (41:49) before we start. (41:51) First is we start (41:52) our Arabic lessons (41:53) tomorrow. (41:55) After Zikr. (41:57) And (41:59) we have the best (42:00) Arabic language (42:01) lessons here. (42:03) In two weeks (42:03) we're going to have (42:04) people reading the (42:05) Quran in Arabic. (42:06) In two weeks. (42:08) You do your homework. (42:11) Rashad (42:11) when I left I thought (42:13) I'm going to come (42:14) and ask Rashad (42:15) to give me a word (42:16) that has about (42:17) you know a few (42:18) things in it (42:18) and I'll learn them (42:19) by getting individual (42:20) words. (42:21) I need you to ask (42:22) a question because (42:22) you're offering (42:23) a class tomorrow. (42:24) In fact I'm going to (42:25) give you homework (42:26) right now (42:26) from between (42:27) Saturday (42:30) between Saturday (42:31) and next Saturday. (42:32) All you need to (42:33) all you should do (42:35) is memorize (42:35) the alphabet. (42:37) Familiarize yourself (42:37) with the alphabet. (42:38) So tomorrow morning (42:39) I'm going to give you (42:40) the Arabic alphabet (42:40) and the equivalent. (42:43) And the (42:44) Arabic alphabet (42:45) and the (42:46) they are different (42:47) at the beginning (42:47) of the word (42:48) the middle and the end. (42:49) Now the reason we're (42:50) starting the Arabic (42:51) language again is (42:52) I found it very useful (42:54) in comparing (42:55) translations and (42:58) in pinning down (42:59) certain words (43:00) where words are (43:02) crucial in the (43:03) translation. (43:05) The second thing (43:05) I wanted to say (43:06) is at the end (43:07) of Chutba (43:08) this afternoon (43:10) you know I (43:11) mentioned that (43:12) they printed (43:14) a million copies (43:14) of the summary (43:16) of the computer (43:16) results and (43:18) another place (43:19) they printed (43:19) a million copies (43:20) and I didn't (43:21) mean to make (43:21) it all praise (43:22) like this because (43:23) I received also (43:24) a new (43:25) book (43:27) a new (43:28) cussing word (43:28) for me (43:30) that (43:31) comes from (43:32) I think (43:32) Indians (43:33) you know how (43:33) polite the Indians (43:34) are. (43:36) So now the new (43:36) the new bad name (43:38) that I received in (43:38) the mail was (43:39) a deviated (43:40) luminary. (44:06) I just forgot to mention it in the whole book. (44:17) Okay. (44:30) In the name of God (44:33) the gracious (44:34) the merciful (44:36) we're at (44:37) page (44:37) 164 (44:37) page 17 (44:40) the subtitle is (44:41) overwhelming (44:42) signs of God (44:43) in the creation (44:44) of the heavens (44:44) and the earth (44:46) the alternation (44:47) of night and (44:48) day (44:49) the ships (44:50) that roam (44:50) the sea (44:51) for the benefit (44:52) of mankind (44:53) the water (44:54) that God (44:54) sends down (44:55) to revive (44:56) dead lands (44:57) and spread (44:57) all kinds (44:58) of creatures (44:58) therein (45:00) the manipulation (45:01) of the winds (45:01) the clouds (45:03) placed (45:04) between the heaven (45:04) and the earth (45:06) all these (45:06) are signs (45:07) for people (45:07) who understand. (45:11) I think we can stay (45:11) in this verse (45:12) for hours (45:13) just to think about (45:14) the overwhelming (45:15) signs of God (45:17) the creation (45:19) of the heavens (45:19) and the earth (45:21) if you just think (45:23) of the (45:23) how God (45:23) designed (45:24) the digestive (45:25) tract (45:28) of every (45:29) of this cat (45:30) see this cat (45:31) here (45:32) come here (45:32) Duke (45:36) come here (45:37) Duke (45:37) you're the (45:38) subject (45:40) perfect (45:43) remember last (45:44) I told you to (45:45) touch your ear (45:46) and see how (45:47) the design (45:47) is of your ear (45:48) and then (45:49) in there (45:50) is the inner (45:51) ear (45:52) and the (45:52) eardrum (45:53) what is this (45:54) design (45:55) you know (45:55) who designed (45:56) this (45:56) for the best (45:57) audio reception (46:00) now look at (46:00) the cat's ears (46:03) how they (46:04) are designed (46:05) and we can (46:06) make noise (46:06) back here (46:07) you see the (46:08) ear (46:11) and if you're (46:12) familiar with (46:12) horses (46:12) the same thing (46:13) the ears (46:14) go like this (46:15) if the sound (46:16) is coming from (46:16) the front (46:17) if you make noise (46:18) back there (46:18) one ear (46:19) goes like that (46:21) right (46:23) and if it's (46:24) the noise (46:24) is over (46:24) from the back (46:25) both of them (46:27) so (46:29) right (46:30) so this is (46:31) God's creation (46:31) the design (46:34) so God (46:35) said I'm (46:35) going to (46:35) create the (46:36) human being (46:36) let's concentrate (46:37) on the human (46:37) being (46:38) and I'm (46:39) going to (46:39) give him a (46:40) mouth (46:41) to eat with (46:44) now (46:45) the food (46:46) is going to (46:47) what is the (46:48) food (46:48) is going to (46:48) be lettuce (46:49) and carrots (46:50) and meat (46:53) eggs and (46:53) potatoes (46:55) so how (46:56) would you (46:56) eat the (46:56) carrots (46:57) you have (46:57) to have (46:57) cutters (46:59) see the front (47:00) teeth (47:00) who designed (47:01) that (47:02) the four (47:04) top ones (47:04) and the (47:04) four lower (47:05) ones (47:05) they're (47:06) cutters (47:09) they cut (47:10) and you see (47:11) how they're (47:12) designed like (47:12) scissors (47:14) we don't have (47:14) anybody with (47:15) overbite or (47:16) underbite (47:17) we're a (47:18) perfect group (47:19) alhamdulillah (47:19) this is what (47:20) I meant (47:20) today (47:20) in the (47:20) food (47:33) I came (47:33) to (47:34) the (47:34) khutba (47:34) today (47:34) I came (47:35) to the (47:35) break of (47:35) saying (47:37) alhamdulillah (47:37) we have to (47:38) thank God (47:39) first (47:39) that we're (47:40) all perfect (47:41) and I (47:42) hesitated (47:42) and I didn't (47:43) come out of (47:43) it (47:44) but I (47:44) don't say (47:44) why not (47:45) you look (47:45) around (47:46) you don't (47:46) see anybody (47:47) with one (47:47) arm (47:47) you know (47:48) or anything (47:48) like that (47:49) not that it (47:49) is bad (47:52) so (47:55) there is (47:56) something (47:56) to it (47:58) because (47:58) when God (47:58) promises (47:59) those who (48:00) worship him (48:00) alone