Messenger Audio 43.2 (25-Feb-1983)

Random conversations - Not Rashad. 07:00 Rashad entered conversation

(0:01) Wow, I've been moonlighting last night, then I drank tea. (0:05) Then the tea made me awake. (0:06) Are you trying to give a small one? (0:09) No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. (0:13) Where's the cure? (0:14) Unusual for your problem. (0:16) Intestinal... (0:17) Usually you take one and that's it. (0:18) Oh, this? (0:18) You have two, one in my... (0:20) It hits head. (0:21) Gives me headache. (0:22) Headache. (0:23) When you're really hungry or... (0:25) Not really. (0:28) I don't get a headache, but I get problems in my stomach sometimes. (0:33) Other people are so strong. Other people are so strong. (0:37) Sometimes I drink it. (0:42) Sometimes I drink it to settle my stomach. (0:47) It depends, soda maybe, but this is not soda. (0:50) This is, you know, the carbonated one and so on. (0:58) I don't really get to work in the place. (0:59) Dr. Avesendi! Dr. Avesendi, come! (1:04) Dr. Avesendi! (1:06) I mean, I'm not going to report on what the findings are. (1:08) You know what time it is tonight? (1:09) Huh? (1:09) You know what time it is tonight? (1:10) When? (1:12) March 26th. (1:13) Oh, that's time. (1:14) That's time for you to drink a bottle. (1:17) Now you are going to... (1:19) Well, the night is coming up. (1:21) Yeah, very nice. Alhamdulillah. (1:22) He said that we have to buy the tickets from here. (1:29) How many cups? (1:31) That the price is going up? (1:33) 50 cents up. (1:35) Oh, inflation. (1:39) No, that's not because of inflation. (1:40) You could have... (1:41) No, one day when you come home... (1:44) More service. (1:45) It's very interesting. (1:47) More service, yeah. (1:48) It's even good for a good life. (1:51) But, my poor people. (1:58) Another one. (2:00) This letter. (2:02) It should not be this day because my friends from California... (2:07) My friends from California are coming tonight. (2:11) They left 6 o'clock this morning. (2:14) So they might come and see me tonight. (2:15) I don't know. (2:17) So that will be next week or something. (2:20) This is the same age as your culture. (2:24) This is family. (2:32) So they probably have spring break or something over there. (2:35) I don't know. (2:40) Lana from heaven. (2:43) Lana from heaven. (2:48) This is the best. (2:49) This is for you. (2:50) No, this one. (2:52) This is very nice. (2:56) I got that Koran you told me about. (3:00) I went there the next day to reserve it. (3:03) And it was gone already. (3:05) It was gone. (3:06) Because I got there at 10 o'clock. (3:08) At the night? (3:09) The next day. (3:10) The following day. (3:11) Yeah. (3:12) Oh, and then what's the time? (3:17) It's not 10 o'clock. (3:18) No? (3:20) It's okay. (3:21) It's okay. (3:21) It's 50 pesos. (3:24) It's 50 pesos. (3:25) If you had sent a book, you could have sent it. (3:27) But what's the price of this one? (3:30) Spanish. (3:31) More than a thousand pesetas. (3:33) No, that's 10 pesetas. (3:35) Yes, but totally more than a thousand. (3:36) Yes, more or less. (3:38) Of course, more than a thousand. (3:40) There. (3:41) 1,300 and something. (3:44) There's one for 200. (3:47) I have it, but it's broken. (3:48) They would have put the 200, but thank you, this is easier to buy. (3:57) Thank you. (3:58) Who is this? (4:00) Juan Carlos. (4:02) Oh, really? (4:04) He was very handsome when he was young. (4:07) Yes, but now he is looking like a fat guy. (4:11) He is Italian. (4:12) I don't know, he is fat. (4:12) Yes, but he is Italian, not Spanish. (4:16) He is Italian. (4:18) He is Italian now. (4:20) He is Italian and French? (4:22) Yes. (4:23) Recently, recently. (4:24) Why? (4:25) Recently. (4:27) Yes. (4:28) How can he be famous? (4:31) He is very happy. (4:32) Recently they mix up with each other. (4:36) Who is this? (4:38) He met him. (4:39) Karl Marx. (4:40) He met him? (4:44) I don't think so. (4:47) No. (4:48) It is not going to be Karl Marx time in Spain. (4:51) I don't believe it. (4:52) No, yeah. (4:54) Especially during the Francisco Franco. (5:03) Yeah, I had, even when Franco, you know, died, we still had all these stamps with him on, you know. (5:12) They just changed it, you know. (5:15) They just changed it. (5:16) And then the money still has him on, you know, and everything. (5:19) Oh, thank you. (5:20) Are you giving me? (5:22) What, don't you want it? (5:23) You too, then. (5:24) Don't you want it? (5:24) Oh, I will give you ten times more of this. (5:28) I have collected the big one for you, but I have to... (5:31) I am still waiting. (5:33) In sha Allah, I will remember that. (5:34) But I have many more for you. (5:36) I know that if I give you 100, you give me 1000. (5:40) No, 200. (5:42) Thank you. (5:49) I think I have the, I must have the big one. (5:54) So... (5:56) So I went there the next day to reserve it for you. (6:00) But it was gone. (6:02) I think you have the possibility. (6:06) I think it is a very bad situation. (6:08) Yeah, it is not. (6:10) And when I saw the errata... (6:16) I found it quite interesting, though. (6:19) In fact, there were some, the way, there were a few verses. (6:24) That is what is interesting about the different translations, (6:27) because they approach some verses differently. (6:30) It makes you look at them from a different point of view. (6:37) You know, I am not... (6:39) Excuse me. (6:41) Excuse me. (6:43) In that conversation about the translation, (6:45) you remember I brought this problem to you about teaching what they did not know. (6:51) Yeah. (6:52) I personally, I am frank with you, (6:55) I remember I told you, you know, I don't go into Quran. (6:57) Yeah. (6:58) I don't put it. (6:59) But you know what is in my mind? (7:00) I tell you. (7:01) Yeah. (7:03) Because, if these people really know what it means, (7:06) it only means that Salat is taught by Allah himself. (7:09) Why? (7:10) I must have had a good reason. (7:12) It must come from Muhammad. (7:13) It is really clear. (7:15) Then we can join that with Quran. (7:18) But prayer is taught... (7:19) Man did not know how to... (7:21) This is my interpretation. (7:22) Man did not know how to pray. (7:24) It is Allah who taught him how to pray, (7:27) which strengthens the argument. (7:31) More, by accepting that in Israel, including... (7:34) They didn't see. (7:36) No. (7:36) They were not allowed to. (7:37) But I saw it. (7:38) I saw it. (7:39) But I didn't want any more, because that would be polemical. (7:42) It would become very disagreeable. (7:45) This past week, I talked to Karl. (7:48) I have... (7:49) You know, when the events are near, it is very hard to see. (7:52) But after a few days, I have analysed the whole situation. (7:56) From one point of view, it is very safe. (7:58) Maybe in your khutbah, insha'Allah, (8:01) Karl is trying to summarize it all. (8:05) Polemical. (8:07) It is very interesting, because we have this problem. (8:10) In brief, it is... (8:20) You know, tonight, there is a family from Los Angeles. (8:29) All the way from Los Angeles to visit me. (8:32) They left at six o'clock. (8:33) What time are they supposed to come? (8:35) Twelve hours. (8:36) Too much. (8:38) Anyhow, but... (8:39) Maybe they'll be too tired. (8:40) If they're too tired, they will not come. (8:43) It's the same person I met. (8:46) The same person I met that came here. (8:49) Big man. (8:50) Gentleman. (8:51) He has been in time in the studio. (8:55) Anyhow. (8:57) Are you still recording, Karl? (8:59) Are you still recording, Karl? (9:00) Can you talk now? (9:05) It is a form of assertion. (9:10) Yeah. (9:10) Assertion of power, again. (9:12) The temptation of power. (9:15) Some of those boys are beating themselves. (9:18) For example, Asmar. (9:20) He's not interested in A or not A or B. (9:23) Only that we're pushing in front. (9:27) So I'm telling Karl. (9:29) If he plays a very careful game, (9:31) if he plays a very careful game, (9:33) he can end up at a loser. (9:35) Because he's a man looking for identity. (9:37) A cause. (9:38) He's looking for a cause. (9:40) And then, the only way by which he can have followers (9:43) is by taking him. (9:44) Because the rest are cowards. (9:45) They think him. (9:46) So they're using him. (9:51) But who? (9:52) They were seeing one man or the other. (9:54) The issue is not in both of them. (9:56) It's only to show how smart he is. (10:00) Poor man. (10:01) Poor man. (10:02) Poor man is the word. (10:03) I think we ought to set it up formally. (10:05) If they ever come again, (10:07) I think we should set it up formally. (10:09) I know I'm being recorded, (10:10) and I give myself permission. (10:13) I'm talking. (10:14) You know, we have a mediator. (10:16) Have written questions submitted. (10:19) Have the mediator speak the question, (10:21) and then... (10:22) Well, I was hoping they would have done it in the first place. (10:24) This is what a debate is. (10:26) That wasn't a debate. (10:27) It's an intelligent discussion between people. (10:29) From the very beginning. (10:30) It's a secret. (10:33) It's a secret